diff --git a/externals/moonlib/mknob.c b/externals/moonlib/mknob.c
index d3c7436c5045f2e75d30321b50188c65c2548e52..9524a20b617595cb3abd21713f87be166bbb641b 100644
--- a/externals/moonlib/mknob.c
+++ b/externals/moonlib/mknob.c
@@ -215,6 +215,17 @@ static void mknob_draw_new(t_mknob *x, t_glist *glist)
     mknob_draw_config(x, glist);
 }
 
+static void mknob_move_io(t_mknob *x,t_glist *glist)
+{
+    int xpos = text_xpix(&x->x_gui.x_obj, glist);
+    int ypos = text_ypix(&x->x_gui.x_obj, glist);
+    t_canvas *canvas = glist_getcanvas(glist);
+    t_gobj *y = (t_gobj *)x;
+
+    gui_vmess("gui_mknob_outlet_coords", "xxi", canvas, x, x->x_gui.x_w);
+}
+
+
 static void mknob_draw_move(t_mknob *x, t_glist *glist)
 {
     int xpos=text_xpix(&x->x_gui.x_obj, glist);
@@ -232,7 +243,8 @@ static void mknob_draw_move(t_mknob *x, t_glist *glist)
     //sys_vgui(".x%lx.c coords %xCENTER %f %f\n",
     //         canvas, x,
     //         xc, yc);
-    mknob_update_knob(x,glist);
+    mknob_update_knob(x, glist);
+    mknob_move_io(x, glist);
     //sys_vgui(".x%lx.c coords %xLABEL %d %d\n",
     //         canvas, x, xpos+x->x_gui.x_ldx, ypos+x->x_gui.x_ldy);
     //if (canvas == glist) {
@@ -249,7 +261,7 @@ static void mknob_draw_move(t_mknob *x, t_glist *glist)
 
 static void mknob_draw_erase(t_mknob *x,t_glist *glist)
 {
-    t_canvas *canvas=glist_getcanvas(glist);
+    t_canvas *canvas = glist_getcanvas(glist);
 
     //sys_vgui(".x%lx.c delete %xBASE\n", canvas, x);
     //sys_vgui(".x%lx.c delete %xCENTER\n", canvas, x);
@@ -263,38 +275,6 @@ static void mknob_draw_erase(t_mknob *x,t_glist *glist)
     //}
 }
 
-static void mknob_draw_io(t_mknob *x,t_glist *glist, int old_snd_rcv_flags)
-{
-    int xpos=text_xpix(&x->x_gui.x_obj, glist);
-    int ypos=text_ypix(&x->x_gui.x_obj, glist);
-    t_canvas *canvas=glist_getcanvas(glist);
-
-    t_gobj *y = (t_gobj *)x;
-    t_object *ob = pd_checkobject(&y->g_pd);
-
-    /* GOP objects are unable to call findrtext triggering consistency check error */
-    t_rtext *yyyy = NULL;
-    if (!glist->gl_isgraph || glist_istoplevel(glist))
-        yyyy = glist_findrtext(canvas, (t_text *)&ob->ob_g);
-
-    /* on GOP we cause segfault as apparently text_gettag() returns bogus data */
-    char *nlet_tag;
-    if (yyyy) nlet_tag = rtext_gettag(yyyy);
-    else nlet_tag = "bogus";
-
-    //if (canvas == glist) {
-    //    if((old_snd_rcv_flags & IEM_GUI_OLD_SND_FLAG) && !x->x_gui.x_fsf.x_snd_able)
-    //        sys_vgui(".x%lx.c create prect %d %d %d %d -tags {%xOUT%d %xMKNOB %so0 outlet}\n",
-    //         canvas, xpos, ypos + x->x_gui.x_w-1, xpos + IOWIDTH, ypos + x->x_gui.x_w, x, 0, x, nlet_tag);
-    //    if(!(old_snd_rcv_flags & IEM_GUI_OLD_SND_FLAG) && x->x_gui.x_fsf.x_snd_able)
-    //        sys_vgui(".x%lx.c delete %xOUT%d\n", canvas, x, 0);
-    //    if((old_snd_rcv_flags & IEM_GUI_OLD_RCV_FLAG) && !x->x_gui.x_fsf.x_rcv_able)
-    //        sys_vgui(".x%lx.c create prect %d %d %d %d -tags {%xIN%d %xMKNOB %si0 inlet}\n",
-    //         canvas, xpos, ypos-1, xpos + IOWIDTH, ypos, x, 0, x, nlet_tag);
-    //    if(!(old_snd_rcv_flags & IEM_GUI_OLD_RCV_FLAG) && x->x_gui.x_fsf.x_rcv_able)
-    //    sys_vgui(".x%lx.c delete %xIN%d\n", canvas, x, 0);
-   // }
-}
 
 //static void mknob_draw_select(t_mknob *x,t_glist *glist)
 //{
diff --git a/pd/nw/pdgui.js b/pd/nw/pdgui.js
index 7c57fbc2a26daeb65d30fb7b99af40e41dbf9f4b..fe636d5ca8f313f1e1a4b37328c0c2100153a3f2 100644
--- a/pd/nw/pdgui.js
+++ b/pd/nw/pdgui.js
@@ -3726,22 +3726,12 @@ function gui_mknob_new(cid, tag, x, y, is_toplevel, show_in, show_out) {
         line = create_item(cid, "line", {
             class: "dial"
         }),
-        in_0 = create_item(cid, "rect", {
-            class: "in_0",
-            style: "display: " + (is_toplevel && show_in ? "inline;" : "none;")
-        }),
-        out_0 = create_item(cid, "rect", {
-            class: "out_0",
-            style: "display: " + (is_toplevel && show_out ? "inline;" : "none;")
-        }),
         label = create_item(cid, "text", {
             class: "label"
         });
     g.appendChild(border);
     g.appendChild(circle);
     g.appendChild(line);
-    g.appendChild(in_0);
-    g.appendChild(out_0);
     g.appendChild(label);
 }
 
@@ -3768,18 +3758,6 @@ function gui_configure_mknob(cid, tag, size, xlet_width, label_x, label_y,
         "stroke-width": 2,
         stroke: fg_color
     });
-    configure_item(g.querySelector(".in_0"), {
-        x: 0,
-        y: -1,
-        width: xlet_width,
-        height: 1
-    });
-    configure_item(g.querySelector(".out_0"), {
-        x: 0,
-        y: size - 1,
-        width: xlet_width,
-        height: 1
-    });
 }
 
 function gui_turn_mknob(cid, tag, x1, y1, x2, y2) {
@@ -3792,6 +3770,17 @@ function gui_turn_mknob(cid, tag, x1, y1, x2, y2) {
     });
 }
 
+function gui_mknob_outlet_coords(cid, tag, w) {
+    var g = get_gobj(cid, tag);
+    g.querySelectorAll(".xlet_iemgui").forEach(function(elem) {
+        if (elem.getAttributeNS(null, "y") !== "0") {
+            configure_item(elem, {
+                y: w - 1
+            });
+        }
+    });
+}
+
 function add_popup(cid, popup) {
     popup_menu[cid] = popup;
 }