diff --git a/pd/nw/pdgui.js b/pd/nw/pdgui.js
index 72de40ae8abf5573e8da26d83abb28e6832e2797..9bb87158e44cafd14fb8be534cfef84d2aac44e1 100644
--- a/pd/nw/pdgui.js
+++ b/pd/nw/pdgui.js
@@ -2149,7 +2149,7 @@ function gui_atom_draw_border(cid, tag, type, width, height) {
             var m = height < 20 ? 1 : height / 12;
             var arrow = create_item(cid, "polygon", {
                 points: atom_arrow_points(width, height),
-                "class": type === 1 ? "index_arrow" : "value_arrow"
+                "class": type === 1 ? "arrow index_arrow" : "arrow value_arrow"
             });
             frag.appendChild(arrow);
         }
@@ -2158,16 +2158,14 @@ function gui_atom_draw_border(cid, tag, type, width, height) {
 }
 
 function gui_atom_redraw_border(cid, tag, type, width, height) {
-    gui(cid).get_elem(tag)
+    gui(cid).get_gobj(tag)
     .q("polygon",  {
         points: atom_border_points(width, height, type !== 0) 
     });
     if (type !== 0) {
-        gui(cid).get_elem(tag, function(e) {
-            var a = e.querySelectorAll("polygon")[1];
-            configure_item(a, {
-                points: atom_arrow_points(width, height)
-            });
+        gui(cid).get_gobj(tag)
+        .q(".arrow", {
+            points: atom_arrow_points(width, height)
         });
     }
 }
diff --git a/pd/src/g_rtext.c b/pd/src/g_rtext.c
index 04a8f6761bb8e89dadeed98aa57df9f0db272a41..6588838496e984a4f6e008f58902b91d50c98c3d 100644
--- a/pd/src/g_rtext.c
+++ b/pd/src/g_rtext.c
@@ -205,6 +205,7 @@ static int lastone(char *s, int c, int n)
 flag is set from the GUI if this happens.  LATER take this out: early 2006? */
 
 extern int sys_oldtclversion;           
+extern int is_dropdown(t_text *x);
 
 static void rtext_senditup(t_rtext *x, int action, int *widthp, int *heightp,
     int *indexp)
@@ -383,11 +384,16 @@ static void rtext_senditup(t_rtext *x, int action, int *widthp, int *heightp,
             // pd_canvas.html.  I could remove the conditional, but
             // this part of Pd is convoluted enough that I'm not sure
             // if there'd be any side effects.
-            if (glist_isvisible(x->x_glist) && (pixwide != x->x_drawnwidth ||
+            // Additionally we avoid redrawing the border here for the
+            // dropdown_class as that has its own special width handling.
+            if (glist_isvisible(x->x_glist) && !is_dropdown(x->x_text) &&
+                (pixwide != x->x_drawnwidth ||
                 pixhigh != x->x_drawnheight ||
                 x->x_text->te_type == T_MESSAGE)) 
+            {
                 text_drawborder(x->x_text, x->x_glist, x->x_tag,
                     pixwide, pixhigh, 0);
+            }
             if (x->x_active)
             {
                 if (selend_b > selstart_b)
diff --git a/pd/src/g_text.c b/pd/src/g_text.c
index 6b735f3ac19c3080b04addce650589dbc7204b46..555e7935fd0af3a6f7546b2662837d50cf5eee40 100644
--- a/pd/src/g_text.c
+++ b/pd/src/g_text.c
@@ -1414,6 +1414,11 @@ typedef struct _dropdown
     t_symbol *a_expanded_to; /* a_symto after $0, $1, ...  expansion */
 } t_dropdown;
 
+int is_dropdown(t_text *x)
+{
+    return (x->te_type == T_ATOM && pd_class(&x->te_pd) == dropdown_class);
+}
+
 static void dropdown_redraw(t_gobj *client, t_glist *glist)
 {
     t_dropdown *x = (t_dropdown *)client;
@@ -1475,6 +1480,7 @@ static int dropdown_names_getmaxwidth(t_dropdown *x) {
 
 static void dropdown_names(t_dropdown *x, t_symbol *s, int argc, t_atom *argv)
 {
+    t_rtext *y = glist_findrtext(x->a_glist, &x->a_text);
     binbuf_clear(x->a_names);
     if (argc)
         binbuf_add(x->a_names, argc, argv);
@@ -1485,6 +1491,9 @@ static void dropdown_names(t_dropdown *x, t_symbol *s, int argc, t_atom *argv)
     x->a_maxnamewidth = dropdown_names_getmaxwidth(x);
     //dropdown_max_namelength(x);
     dropdown_retext(x, 1, 0);
+    /* Now redraw the border */
+    text_drawborder(&x->a_text, x->a_glist, rtext_gettag(y),
+        rtext_width(y), rtext_height(y), 0);
 }
 
 static void dropdown_bang(t_dropdown *x)
@@ -1856,8 +1865,7 @@ static void text_getrect(t_gobj *z, t_glist *glist,
         int fontwidth = sys_fontwidth(font), fontheight = sys_fontheight(font);
         width = (x->te_width > 0 ? x->te_width : 6) * fontwidth + 2;
         /* add an extra two characters for the dropdown box's arrow */
-        if (pd_class(&x->te_pd) == dropdown_class)
-            width += fontwidth * 2;
+        if (is_dropdown(x)) width += fontwidth * 2;
         height = fontheight + 3; /* borrowed from TMARGIN, etc, in g_rtext.c */
     }
     // jsarlo
@@ -1895,7 +1903,7 @@ static void text_getrect(t_gobj *z, t_glist *glist,
         if (y)
         {
             width = rtext_width(y);
-            if (pd_class(&x->te_pd) == dropdown_class)
+            if (is_dropdown(x))
             {
                 int font = glist_getfont(glist);
                 int fontwidth = sys_fontwidth(font);
@@ -2728,8 +2736,7 @@ void text_drawborder(t_text *x, t_glist *glist,
             gui_vmess("gui_atom_draw_border", "xsiii",
                 glist_getcanvas(glist),
                 tag,
-                pd_class(&x->te_pd) == dropdown_class ?
-                    ((t_dropdown *)x)->a_outtype + 1 : 0,
+                (is_dropdown(x) ? ((t_dropdown *)x)->a_outtype + 1 : 0),
                 x2 - x1,
                 y2 - y1);
         }